• WOW! Thank you friends for joining us here in Kinky Wonderland.
    We have just reached 600 registered members and we are so excited for this influx of membership.
    The forums have been so lively and we are loving the activity and sense of community that we are building.
    For those who are new, and especially those seeking refuge from gD and KT, please feel free to read this post explaining some of the highlights from the site .
    We’re looking for a little help behind the scenes!
    If you would like to apply to be a Wonderland Curator or a Moderator , please fill out an application.
    We have also gone live with our donations link for anybody who is interested in helping with resources to keep the site running smoothly.
    Again, I want to say thank you to each and every person who has joined the site, or been active.
    This is OUR community, and it takes all of us to create something special!

How did we get here?

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With a new influx of people some of whom don't know me which is realistically everyone except the mods (I'm a very private person) here is my philosophy and how we got where we are. I want to write this to give some insight into my thoughts and the site as a whole and to just reassure some people on how things work and to also be transparent as I feel like there was little to none with GetDare.

I built this site for Butterfly because of the passion she had for GetDare. I never once asked for a dime to make it or to support it. I did it fully knowing it would cost money and likely never make any back—and I was and am completely okay with that. I remember talking to her post GetDare ban and asking "Why don't I make you your own?"


With the recent influx of new members, we decided to add a donation button. Every dollar goes directly back into running the servers, development, and general upkeep of the site. If we ever broke even, that’d be cool—but honestly, it’s not something I’m worried about. Donations were only enabled recently because of the growth we’ve seen. If costs ever rose significantly as the community continued to grow, we’ve discussed the possibility of a subscription model, but it’s not a major concern right now. In fact, with the support we’ve received so far, we’re probably closer to breaking even than not—so that’s pretty wild, honestly. We did also discuss perhaps just introducing one for people who want to support us on a consistent basis. We shall see. This ties into my philosophy below though.




A bit of my philosophy​


I hate ads. I absolutely cannot stand them. You will never see ads on this site while I’m one of the owners.


If we ever did introduce a subscription option, it would have to give something back to the community. Yes, it would help keep the site running—but that’s also why we have donation badges now, and higher-tier donors can even get a custom title that I personally make for people. We appreciate the support more than we can properly express.


One of the biggest concerns has always been alienation. We want this community to be inclusive. A broke college student just discovering their kink who can barely afford groceries? Completely welcome. Money should never create a divide or make anyone feel lesser here. That’s why donations only ever result in a warm feeling of helping keep the lights on and maybe a cool little badge or title. I never want donations to unlock features or change anyone’s experience on the site in any functional way.




Who runs the site​


I handle all of the backend and technical work. Butterfly is, for lack of a better term, the CEO and creative director—alongside our incredible mod team. If you want to think of it this way: Butterfly and I are co-owners. I run the nerd shit; she runs the sparkly front-of-house and is the last word and boss on anything not compliance related.


That’s also why you don’t often see me engaging in activities on the site beyond chatting and tech support. I like the tech stuff she is the well glitter filled Butterfly. One of the bigger things we’ve talked about internally is the “what if” scenario—what happens if one of us steps away, or worse.


Me:
If I decided I was done, I’d pass over all server and account access to Butterfly and help during a transition while she found another tech-minded person to take over. If I got hit by a bus… well, I wouldn’t be helping much—but the access and protocols are already in place. Yes, we actually talked about this.


Butterfly:
If Butterfly ever decided she was done, I honestly don’t know what would happen. I don’t ever see that happening—but if something awful occurred, the site would keep running, and I’d probably try to find another “sparkly” person to help lead it. We haven’t really planned that scenario, and I hope we never have to. I built this dream for her, and without her it wouldn’t be the same.




What if the site gets taken down?​


This is something I take very seriously. I comply with all required regulations, and the site is backed up multiple times a day. If something ever did happen, I’d bring the site back online as quickly as possible while complying with whatever caused the takedown in the first place.


So overall—no need to worry. We’ve got it covered.
 
Thanks for the insight. It really is eye-opening. I have run a forum before (it never got any members lol) but I appreciate the level of effort goes into it especially when you start writing your own code and plugins. As a fellow kinky nerd, I really appreciate what you have both accomplished here!

I am with you on the no ads thing. I would happily pay a small subscription a bit like getdare to help costs especially for the people who would otherwise not be able to contribute to such a place

PS. If like me, you were a subscriber to getdare's subscription, I'd recommend cancelling your sub through paypal
 
Appreciate the love and dedication that you two put into this place. Very thankful that this site could act as a safe haven after... the incident. I'm sure it may have felt like a drag in the early days, when this place wasn't as active as you may have hoped, but hopefully now things can blossom into their full potential!
 
Appreciate the love and dedication that you two put into this place. Very thankful that this site could act as a safe haven after... the incident. I'm sure it may have felt like a drag in the early days, when this place wasn't as active as you may have hoped, but hopefully now things can blossom into their full potential!
To be honest I always had fun running it. From time to time I've taken breaks developing when it wasn't as active but I'm always around. I've made tools and ran site that had as little as one user before just for the fun of it. Heck I made a whole site dedicated to tracking the release of games that I'm fairly sure no one uses. I enjoy building fun things. I've also run and continue to run other giant platforms with thousands of users to me it's just a fun project. The fact that so many get something out of it is a giant bonus. Glad you all found a safe haven!
 
I also wanted to add that if for any reason the site had to end, we would give absolutely as much notice and communication as possible. You would have opportunities to back up your content, make other arrangements for connects etc.

I honestly cannot thank @Inkwarden enough for making my dream a reality. This site is a huge passion for me and it is the best give I could have received at a time where I was so heartbroken. Thank you for your continued support of me, and for believing in me. Also thanks for being a mega nerd 😂
 
Kudos to both of you for your respective contributions to this site! Inkwarden, I have to take this opportunity to tell you I love the changelog thread … not just because it’s cool to see what has rolled out but also because it’s something I wish I implemented in my web development work, in part as a way to look back.
 
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